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krush kill 'n destroy
written by Geekofdeath on Aug 02, 2006 01:14
In Noctis, I take -268 degrees Celsius for granted. But then, I finally noticed it go under -275 degrees Celsius. I immediately thought about absolute zero. I found that absolute zero is -273.15 degrees Celsius. That means [in Kelvin] that the temperatures I came across were in the negatives.

Earlier today, while doing random searches on Wikipedia, I found out about negative [Kelvin] temperatures. There, after a considerable time filtering the hard-core science and mathematics stuff from the understandable stuff, I found that a negative [Kelvin] temperature would be hotter than an infinite temperature. IE, from coldest to hottest the temperatures [in Kelvin] would be....

+0 K, . . . , +300 K, . . . , +infinity K, -infinity K, . . . , -300 K, . . . , -0 K

The Wiki link is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature.

Anyways, this means I found an absurdly impossibly hot [solid] planet. Of course, I know it's a bug, but.... it's interesting nonetheless.

EDIT: Actually, it wasn't the planet's surface that was really hot (meaning negative Kelvin temperatures), it was the planet's atmosphere; when I was lifting off and just about to enter the blank screen before entering the ship, the temperatures were under absolute zero.
written by Xenomorph on Aug 02, 2006 02:00
That's been known for a while. You can think of it in one of two ways:

1) The Noctis universe's absolute zero is colder than our own; or

2) Noctis' temperature algorithms are inaccurate.

Take your pick
krush kill 'n destroy
written by Geekofdeath on Aug 02, 2006 02:16
2.

I know it's a bug, and I knew that most people would know. But oh, well. I just found the concept of negative [Kelvin] temperatures.... amusing, I guess.
mother ark
written by Tacogeddon on Aug 02, 2006 04:55
Xenomorph said:
That's been known for a while. You can think of it in one of two ways:

1) The Noctis universe's absolute zero is colder than our own; or

2) Noctis' temperature algorithms are inaccurate.

Take your pick
I would take number two....but that's boring...I'll take one because it's less of a bummer...it is another galaxy!

It's not a bug....it's...erm...a feature!

It's not a bug unless you fell through the planet
sun + black hole = fwoosh!
written by Shadowlord on Aug 02, 2006 16:33
(Yes, it's a bug)

Regular Noctis or NICE?
krush kill 'n destroy
written by Geekofdeath on Aug 02, 2006 19:00
Regular.
written by Dode1000 on Aug 02, 2006 22:06
what planet is this on I wanna see! ( please give parasis coordinites
krush kill 'n destroy
written by Geekofdeath on Aug 03, 2006 00:14
It's nothing really interesting at all. The negative temperatures are a bug; they aren't actually real negative temperatures, or I would've died (impossible in Noctis). You could probably find such temperatures on all sorts of planets...

Besides, it's at the bottom of the galaxy; there are only something like 5 stars that can be seen from here, with the star amplifier on of course, which is why I named the system Stars' End.
written by Tigershark on Aug 03, 2006 05:46
Also, if an object were to reach absolute zero, it is believed that it would condense to an infinitely dense point.

Or am I wrong? Maybe I'm thinking of something else. It's been awhile since chemistry.
i haz title: speed-y-???-1
written by Speeder on Aug 03, 2006 11:00
It is impossible to reach 0 in fact... Since to go colder something more colder need to make you colder, and whenthis happen the thing get hotter, so is impossible to reach 0,since there are nothing with the 0 temperature, even if it existed, when it made something else more cold, it do not was 0 anymore...
written by Vampire on Aug 03, 2006 11:21
The easiest way to solve this problem is: use another meter, or create one,like the time in Noctis, I think...
mother ark
written by Tacogeddon on Aug 03, 2006 15:41
Geekofdeath said:
Stars' End.
Reminds me of the "The Deepest Point"

*Salutes best outer-rim explorer ever*

I have named a star on the edge...too bad I never sent in my data. I think it may have been just a few clicks farther out than the deepest point ....the star was an S09 with two planets...one thin atmosphere planet and one substeller...no moons.
krush kill 'n destroy
written by Geekofdeath on Aug 03, 2006 19:56
The whole system of Stars' End is named after planets from Isaac Asimov's Foundation universe. Terminos (Terminus was already taken) is the Felisian planet. Of course, it doesn't really matter for you, because everything would be unnamed....

I'm looking for another Felisian system to be named after Douglas Adams' planets (Maximegalon, Frogstar, Happi Werld, ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha, etc.).
mother ark
written by Tacogeddon on Aug 04, 2006 02:18
Geekofdeath said:
The whole system of Stars' End is named after planets from Isaac Asimov's Foundation universe. Terminos (Terminus was already taken) is the Felisian planet. Of course, it doesn't really matter for you, because everything would be unnamed....
Which is why auto updates would be nice.

The starmap would be huge now if we had an auto updater in NIV...we will have to wait for NV for that though.

I think a ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha is in noctis already...I'll look....

EDIT: Yup..they put it down as: ZZ9-plural Z-alpha
krush kill 'n destroy
written by Geekofdeath on Aug 04, 2006 02:28
Yeah, I just named the moon ZZ9 Plural-Z Alpha. I don't know how they came up with the hyphen between 9 & plural and Z & alpha, though.
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