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journeyman
written by Stargazer on Jan 21, 2007 16:33
Vista
44 members voted in this poll so far
Of course I'll get it! I got my pre-order right here!
I guess I may stroll down to the shops on launch day and see if I can find a copy
Nope! I'm fine with my current OS
No way! Microsoft is evil!
Vista who?
I may get it in a couple of weeks, when more device drivers have been released and such
I might get it only after the first few service packs, IF those fixes most of the problems
I will get Vista only when I have to
At the time of this posting (January 21, 2007), only nine days remain until Microsoft drops their new bomb on the PC industry: the widely (over)hyped operating system called Windows Vista. Seeing as how most of us who are into computer gaming may probably have to switch to Vista at some point (evil, yes, but that's how it looks like), I figured I might as well create this thread for any discussion about the OS - from hints and tips, to troubleshooting (I am especially curious about how Lino, Noctis and other HSP products work in Vista), to ranting or praising, and so on.

So, let's start with the obvious question at this time: Who plans to get it, and when?

Personally, I will probably wait at least a few weeks, or preferably half a year if my current computer survives that long. Hopefully, that should give the industry time to create stable and working drivers for the various add-in cards and devices, and Microsoft some time to optimize and patch. When I do eventually get it, I plan to do a dual-boot: Vista for the newest, DX10-driven games, and ordinary Windows XP Pro for legacy software that will not work, or work poorly on the new OS (of which there are tons, from what I have heard). Sure, that will chew up a lot of hard drive space, but I think its manageable if I ever get to build that new machine I have been delaying the past two years.

How about you?
written by Xenomorph on Jan 21, 2007 17:59
Considering that it took me something like three years before I got XP, I won't be getting Vista any time soon. As some of you know, I'm not exactly a big fan of Windoze.
going nowhere fast...
written by Skinnymon on Jan 21, 2007 18:28
Let's go back to DOS [J/K!]
written by Moominaba on Jan 21, 2007 19:04
I'm going to avoid it as long as i can, but eventually, i'll have to get it :X
rawr
written by Raptorjedi on Jan 21, 2007 19:05
Not gonna touch it. I don't have that kind of money, time, or even a desire to get Vista. I guess if it comes with a computer I get in the future I will likely never have it. And I found this lovely little thing http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12314
Plus I think the whole aero glossy crap is ugly.
written by Barebones on Jan 21, 2007 19:36
Oh, how I love terror stories...

Wouldn't it be easier for rogue developers to write a new 3-D GUI that replaces explorer.exe in existing OS's? (Written in OpenGL, to maximize the pun.)

As for myself, I can live with Windows 2000 for some years to come, until I have to buy newer hardware... and probably install XP + Linux on it.

I have another premonition ringing in my ears (apart from hackers practising their social engineering with the Remote Assistance)... Will Vista witness the comeback of the Paperclip helper ("Do you want to write a letter? Do you? Do you?"), with an upgraded vengeance?
hello! :) felysian
written by Hello! :) on Jan 22, 2007 00:34
There's no option for what I'm selecting.

I will get Vista, probably before I have to. Though it does depend on what you mean by "I have to." Basically, I'm planning on building a new computer, so I'll probably get it. I will probably still use Windows XP, even if I do get Vista. The other part of "I have to" is that I do wish to develop for Vista, which....... obviously means I have to have Vista.

Oh, when I do get Vista (it is a certainty, exactly when is not), I'll most likely get the x64 version purely out of spite towards those who got the 32 bit version (I'd be developing 64 bit exclusively). Plus I'll be able to write nasty hate messages to developers who make their software only available for 32 bit people (namely evil copy/hack protection that requires eviler drivers to run).

I hate rootkits. x64 will offer some protection for now.
"gheeh!" (c)h.azuma
written by Yayo on Jan 22, 2007 01:19
my pc wouln't be able to manage that "thing".
And btw I don't need it.

y.
written by Stellanaut on Jan 22, 2007 03:12
Not only am i less than impressed with vista, I dislike microsoft as a corporation. They are virtually a monopoly in the business, and I would feel it would be better not to support monopolies. I would probably keep xp, and if worse comes to worse, i would set up linux on one of my unused partitions and use wine with it, which hopefully would be updated to emulate for the newer programs. The only reason im not using linux right now is because nearly all of my software lacks direct compatibility with it.
written by Moominaba on Jan 22, 2007 05:11
I had XP 64 for about 3 days... Nothing would really seem to work.... I'd expect the same from vista 64
~vacation~
written by Tacogeddon on Jan 22, 2007 13:14
I'll only get Vista when DX10 games dominate the market....but for now....


*Starts up neXTstep*
wah... waall-eee
written by Magnulus on Jan 22, 2007 13:46
I'll get it when have to, that is; I will get it when Apple stops making an OS that is years ahead of Windows in features and stability.
written by Cryoburner on Jan 22, 2007 16:41
Much like Hello, I'll likely put Vista on my next primary desktop system, but that might not be for a couple years. I don't have any plans for installing it on my current system. If I happen to get a laptop before then, it might have Vista installed, but from what I've heard, it can hurt performance and battery life on current generation notebooks, so many vendors may stick with XP a bit longer.

Raptorjedi said:
And I found this lovely little thing http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12314
Plus I think the whole aero glossy crap is ugly.
That article is written by the CEO of WildTangent, so I don't know how well I'd trust it. WildTangent collects usage statistics and is considered to be spyware by some security utilities. Of course he wouldn't be happy if MS makes it more difficult to install potential spyware.

As for thinking Aero is ugly, isn't that what some were saying about XP when it was released? Vista will come with a less graphic-intensive interface option as well, which looks more like XP. Even with Aero, there's the option to disable transparency effects.

Hello! : ) said:
I'll most likely get the x64 version purely out of spite towards those who got the 32 bit version (I'd be developing 64 bit exclusively). Plus I'll be able to write nasty hate messages to developers who make their software only available for 32 bit people (namely evil copy/hack protection that requires eviler drivers to run).
From what I've heard, Vista will ship with both 32 bit and 64 bit versions together, so it should see a lot more support than XP x64 was given. Virtually all new computers and most recent ones have 64 bit processors already, and I expect most will want to make full use of their hardware.
wah... waall-eee
written by Magnulus on Jan 22, 2007 16:45
I can't stand the XP design, either. I think it looks like candy or a single-coloured kindergarten playground or something. It looks glossy in the way cheap brands of food and other things are glossy in order to disguise the fact that they're just crap.

That being said, XP works better than it looks, though not as good as it should. I'm not going to worry by pretty little head about Vista for now. I'm more psyched about OSX Leopard, but that's not for this thread.
written by Barebones on Jan 22, 2007 16:49
Cryoburner said:
That article is written by the CEO of WildTangent, so I don't know how well I'd trust it. WildTangent collects usage statistics and is considered to be spyware by some security utilities. Of course he wouldn't be happy if MS makes it more difficult to install potential spyware.
I presume you are aware of the fact that, before creating WildTangent, Alex St. John worked at Microsoft and was part of the team creating the firsts drafts of DirectX. I was not aware of his spywaremania, though.
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