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written by Cryoburner on Jan 22, 2007 17:40
Magnulus said:
I can't stand the XP design, either. I think it looks like candy or a single-coloured kindergarten playground or something. It looks glossy in the way cheap brands of food and other things are glossy in order to disguise the fact that they're just crap.
I use the silver color scheme in XP, rather than the default blue one. The blue is too bold and looks like plastic, while the silver is much more discreet. It might still be shiny, but it looks a lot better.

Yeah, I know who Alex St. John is. Also, Wildtangent tends to be considered more as borderline spyware. It's probably not a major security threat, but it reports information about a user's system configuration and automatically updates itself without user intervention. Also, Wildtangent games tend to be lame, from my experience. : P
written by Mindofzoo999 on Jan 23, 2007 05:35
Skinnymon said:
Let's go back to DOS [J/K!]
Good idea!
written by Stellanaut on Jan 23, 2007 23:20
I wouldnt say no to an OS that is efficient, supports many applications, is stable, and isnt cluttered around by graphics BS. A lot of times im quicker with a prompt than a window anyway.
i haz title: speed-g-dof
written by Speeder on Jan 24, 2007 18:30
A computer engineer told me that vista is great because it changes itself so is a global virus attack apear, it would not infect all the computers...

Then I asked him: If windows vista, can block a virus of working, does it not mean that it can block non-virus of working?

His awnser: Yes. but being safe from virus is more important than comatibility...
written by Bellum on Jan 25, 2007 01:17
As a gamer I will have to get it eventually. Probably not for a few years, though.
journeyman
written by Stargazer on Jan 30, 2007 19:56
Vista has been released, and so has the first benchmark:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/

Overall, I find the results to be pretty much as expected this soon after the launch; there is some performance impact, but it seems to be a rather manageable 5-10% on most applications (with a few staggering exceptions such as the colossal -35 % loss in Unreal Tournament). With coming drivers, I expect the performance gap to decrease further, though as usual with new Windows releases, Vista will probably never completely catch up with XP.

A rather nice surprise is that Aero Glass barely has any impact at all on gaming performance (at least not in full screen mode). I had originally planned to disable the new interface, but after this, I might just keep it on if I like it.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_vista_aero_glass_performance/

Now for me, it is back to the waiting game for more drivers to be released and matured. If I am lucky, I might just get to build my new machine this year… I hope…
written by Barebones on Jan 30, 2007 20:52
A note of caution (please correct me if I'm wrong): in order to get Aero Glass and the translucent windows, you need to buy at least the Home Premium version. According to <a href=http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/experiences/aero.mspx>this MS page (too heavy lately, Google's cache <a href=http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:dU0Q9F7MnMYJ:www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/experiences/aero.mspx+home+basic+vista+aero&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4>here) (and as seen on many other news reports like <a href=http://windows.about.com/od/windowsvista/p/vista_homebasic.htm>this one) Aero is not included in the Home Basic edition, which is meant for low-end computers (and alas, it's also the cheapest).
hello! :) felysian
written by Hello! :) on Jan 30, 2007 21:24
I may be getting Vista a lot sooner than I expected. As I will be able to get a copy through school. Though I don't know if it will be Pro or not (I hope it is, because there are web classes that I think will depend on it). Anyway, a free copy of Vista will probably be worthwhile.
Hmm... that reminds me, I should get a copy of XP Pro for my laptop as before I lose my chance.
written by Cryoburner on Jan 30, 2007 23:02
As with XP, Newegg has OEM copies of Vista available for significantly less than the retail versions, at $94.99 for Basic, $119.99 for Premium, $149.99 for Business, and $199.99 for Ultimate. Of course, these are intended for system builders, meaning the liscense can't be transferred to another system, and you need to provide your own support. If you're installing it on your own computer, that probably won't be much of an issue. It should also be noted that you apparently need to select between the 32 and 64 bit version before buying the OEM, while the retail comes with both disks, allowing you to choose. That might be more of an issue if you change your mind and want to switch to the other at a later time.
rose pony is best pony
written by Starchaser on Feb 10, 2007 00:51
I say microsoft can go stick it. we could get by on mac os, linux, hactar Ect.
if they are going to be a multinatonal empiere do it in 100 years or so when i don't care. vistas first copies sold for $1000 american come on real nerds don't have that kind of money.

P.S. just kidding about hactar even tho its cool.
P.P.S. and if you want the vista look just download the vista skins for xp.
written by Cctrigger on Feb 10, 2007 14:01
But how will you sample the wonders of DirectX 10 without Vista?

And why not simply duel boot with a choice of two OS's? Best of both worlds.






on the DX10 note, compare these two rather large images to get an insight onto what DX10 may offer the entertainment industry:

http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?t=287594

I am under the impression this is somthing of a concept render though, but taken with a pinch of prerenderd salt, it gives an insight into where the industry is moving.
written by Stellanaut on Feb 10, 2007 18:19
Sharky Forums, last page said:
Honestly i'm not at all impressed.

Starting off with the water: You notice the reflections use the same map as the dx9 version does, its just a texture slapped over the dx9 water.

The mountains: looks like they actually turned the bloom filter and some type of depth of field effect on.

Sky: the dx9 screen shot was ******. I assume that since it is a flight simulator you are going to be flying through those clouds, untill i see a shot of those clouds being interacted with I shall remain sceptical.

That is all just one possible explanaition, albiet a very harsh one. I sure hope dx10 is as good as they say it will be.
Sharky Forums, last page said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck232
I think they said it was a rendering of what they 'hope' DX10 will bring to graphics. So no, I don't think it was real time.

Yeah I just read that yesterday on the actual forum. I wouldn't be surprised if they could actually render like that real time though. And I dunno why, but I prefer the water in the DX9 shot, maybe I'm just acustomed to it =/
I think dx10 wont have much over dx9, except it could be used as a way for a few companies to work together to force people to buy vista even though it isn't the best OS as far as I've heard. In some ways I consider it a leadup to the anti-competitive crap that was supposed to be made a felony I beleive.
written by Cctrigger on Feb 10, 2007 18:55
Well, as i say i think thats a concept shot, not in fact a true DX10 screenshot.

To be honest, i think most of the current XP or older users will eventually find themselves using vista. And in its defence, its certainly a whole lot more stable/device-friendly than XP was on its release.

Give a year or so and i think most will warm to this new incarnation.
rose pony is best pony
written by Starchaser on Feb 11, 2007 03:25
you microsoft sympathiser
going nowhere fast...
written by Skinnymon on Feb 11, 2007 03:28
Actuality, the DX9 shot looks better than the DX10 rendering, but who am I kidding? I have such a crappy system that VISTA will eat me for a snack...

BRING BACK WIN 95! (hee...hee...) ^(u)^
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