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written by Deanfrz on Oct 23, 2007 20:35
SO the biblical prophesy of Noah goes that God will never again use water to destroy the world, no, fire this time.

You could make a pretty good argument that he's not talking about the destruction of humanity but of economic and social change.
In ancient time the big commerce engine was first goat/mules and such, then boats came and tore thier world a new one. You could argue that advanced strangers from another land will never come in boats and occupy them again. No, your world will be doing all the water based destruction.

***You could also argue that the fire part is simply referring to the use of fire as an engine of commerce (ie the internal combustion engine and the steam engine and all that). In many ways the world of the ancients no longer exists due to, well, fire. ***

So while the bible does have many creepy predictions, apply them to today dosnt make much sense because many of them have already become true.
The world was destroyed by fire, in the form of carefully harnessed fire by man.

And it could have been predicted at the time due to the fact that all these religious nuts(temple preists) were using all sorts of steam powered contraptions to scare the hell out of the common people(Thank you History Channel)

This just begs the question of where all these steam powered contraptions and the know how to build them came from.
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written by Pomelos on Oct 23, 2007 21:21
Huh?
there's science to be done!
written by Yash on Oct 23, 2007 21:24
:3
wah... waall-eee
written by Magnulus on Oct 23, 2007 21:25
They knowledge og how to build steam "engines" came from the same place as all technology: Observing the effect something has on something else and then reproducing that effect to achieve something. Are you suggesting steam engines are a Godly invention?
krush kill 'n destroy
written by Geekofdeath on Oct 23, 2007 21:57
Pomelos said:
Huh?
Agreed.

Magnulus said:
They knowledge og how to build steam "engines" came from the same place as all technology: Observing the effect something has on something else and then reproducing that effect to achieve something. Are you suggesting steam engines are a Godly invention?
I really haven't the faintest idea what he's talking about. From what I got, he's just mocking the History Channel and it's normal "OMFG LOL TEH WERLDS GUNNUH N'D!!! ORLF!!" taboo, which hardly has anything to do with history. If it does relate to history, it's a terribly biased (or at least too open) view. Not clearly said by Dean, but I would agree.

If he is saying that steam engines are a godly invention, then that begs to ask why, exactly, are computers not?
written by Deanfrz on Oct 23, 2007 23:45
No, I'm saying that some jackass invented the thing and then said "You know what this would be good for? Scaring the gold out of peons" rather than "... transporting goods across great distances."

I'm not mocking anything. I'm just saying that "the world" the ancient world anyways, has already been ended by fire.

Also, I embrace the idea that the current industrialized phase of humanity is not the first but rather the last in a long series. I support this with the fact that had there been a nuclear war 10,000 years ago, there would be absolutly no evidence that it had happen(no residual radiation anyways.)

The history channel bit was refering to a show I saw detailing all these ancient steam powered contraptions in temples designed to scare pilgrims into believeing in Zeus and shit like that.

EDIT: and as for the nuclear war, it didnt even had to be that advanced of a society, coulda just been some jackass alchemist in Gomorrah saying "And when I join the Uranium(or whatever they called it, pitchblend) hemispheres, gold will spring into..." FOOM!!!!!
krush kill 'n destroy
written by Geekofdeath on Oct 24, 2007 00:41
Deanfrz said:
EDIT: and as for the nuclear war, it didnt even had to be that advanced of a society, coulda just been some jackass alchemist in Gomorrah saying "And when I join the Uranium(or whatever they called it, pitchblend) hemispheres, gold will spring into..." FOOM!!!!!
I believe it's a lot more complicated than that.... but yeah. People with that kind of mindset should be shot.
written by Deanfrz on Oct 24, 2007 01:27
With arrows? Because they didnt have guns back then(or even very good arrows).
krush kill 'n destroy
written by Geekofdeath on Oct 24, 2007 03:09
Deanfrz said:
With arrows? Because they didnt have guns back then(or even very good arrows).
I meant people with that mindset today.

The kind of people that pass this test.
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written by Zjc92 on Oct 24, 2007 04:28
I passed! But my answer involved incest... do I still fail? DAMN OEDIPUS COMPLEX!

EDIT: Or IS it?
└> last changed by Zjc92 on October 24, 2007 at 08:55
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written by Geekofdeath on Oct 24, 2007 10:50
Zjc92 said:
DAMN OEDIPUS COMPLEX!
Only in Anywherebb....
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written by Zjc92 on Oct 24, 2007 10:52
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