|written by Alex on Feb 23, 2008 16:59|
|I'm back and I can even post.|
It's a pleasure now (given the faster connection providing instant page loads and submissions). I also remember I had promised to look into the Paranoia game, but in effects I've been quite busy pondering a lot of things. But I will, it appears not to be a game taking much time anyway.
I'm also terribly confused about future projects concerning ABB. I really don't like the actual design of Postline anymore (not a matter of how it looks, but the design of the code and the database infrastructure behind it). But I also have to bring L.in.oleum 2 to a reasonable level of completion. Currently, I've decided to keep up the work with L.in.oleum and hope this two-year-old Postline can hold on until I'm ready.
There, I've posted!
|written by Magnulus on Feb 23, 2008 17:14|
|You've turned Canadian in your absense, eh? |
I think Postline will probably be fine for quite a while longer. It seems to have worked rather well other than the C-disk issue, so I'm good, at least.
When you DO rewrite it, are you thinking of changing it to a more web 2.0 kind of deal with pages dynamically changing so you get the posting thingy and everything else in the same frame (like in the forums at www.gp32x.com for example) or will you keep the frames?
I love seeing you around again in any case. You're a great personality to have around and I hope that your broadband will help you have a more casual relationship to the forums than before (and maybe we'll see you in IRC from time to time as well!)
|written by Alex on Feb 23, 2008 17:30|
|I'm thinking of a much simpler look, as well. And SOME AJAX functionality, but only for non-vital tasks like updating the chat box. I have a simple one-page, no-frames layout ready. It doesn't look fantastic, but uses only HTML/CSS and no graphics parts, looks intrinsically elegant and highly readable. I'll probably be using that.|
|written by Megagun on Feb 23, 2008 17:35|
|I like postline. I think it's the best forum/community engine in existance (at least as far as I am aware of)...|
But ofcourse, if you feel there's a need to revamp it, go ahead! I bet it'll be lotsa better in many different ways..
Also, I think postline looks very muchly so simple already, when compared to other complicatedly looking forum engines like (blasphemy!) SMF...
|written by Alex on Feb 23, 2008 17:40|
|For sure I want to change stuff here, and I mean everything, including switching back again to a flat-file-based DB, in spite of SQL. Random access to flat files, if it's properly synched, is thread-safe. I've observed it through my experience with this same server and I'm 100% sure of that. However, I was also planning to do this major rebuild of Postline after completing L.in.oleum, or at least making it functional enough for people to begin programming with it. Which keeps being my intention, so far.|
|Just a question: what about private messaging in the new version? Any planned improvements? Like, say, the ability to handle dozens of messages a little more efficiently than right now?|
|written by Megagun on Feb 23, 2008 17:43|
|Myself, I had the idea that instead of showing PMs in the tiny frame on the left, it could expand them automatically and show them as a thread, but with each PM displayed as a 'post'...|
|written by Alex on Feb 23, 2008 17:56|
|Well, I can anticipate that the left frame will no longer be there at all, but a navigation bar and the actual "frespych" will be hosted in a tall "div" about the size of the actual left frame. PMs and everything else will go on the page. The future layout is designed to keep the chat's div and the nav bar in fixed position, while the page contents scroll behind them.|
|written by Crembo on Feb 23, 2008 18:34|
The spirit of The Daily WTF hungers. Do not feed it!
|... flat-file-based DB...|
P.S.: I consider this site a must-read for anyone who develops/codes. I read it religiously.
|written by Alex on Feb 23, 2008 19:30|
|What about the troubles we had with the SQL server then? |
I still remember orange screens of death followed by corrupt > repair > corrupt > repair > lose data. Okay, those were misconfiguration or general troubles with the SQL server, we supposed. But that's also what happened with flat files sometimes, and for the same causes. However, random access of fixed-size files with linear-time lookup operations and read-write cache is going to be fast and reliable, in my humble opinion. Hah! We'll see! We'll see!
|written by Yayo on Feb 23, 2008 23:58|
Wohoo!! just like the pyg site I'm working on.. : D
|I'm thinking of a much simpler look... blahblah...a simple one-page, no-frames ...blahblah...only HTML/CSS ...blahblah...elegant and highly readable...blahblah...|
err.. well, not really, I was working on it 'till some months ago, then a break for many reasons and.. : |
duh, still there.. unfinished.. : /
well, it'll be ready.. someday.. maybe.. x /
but at least the HTML/CSS sinergy is now working, even in the kanjidict results page, despite all the bugs of CSSucks. Ha!
take this, stupid CSSchifo. In your face! hohoho.. >: P
(err.. sorry for being so far out of topic. duh. x P)
|written by Alex on Feb 24, 2008 00:04|
|Speaking of HTML/CSS, of course you may remember when I was about to quit HTML and design a site-specific browser? I mean, it's not that I'm loving the actual combinations of HTML/CSS and the AJAX approach in general. But I must admit that: it more or less works (after a whole afternoon of trial-and-error on at least three browsers); it is in fact what the visitor expects from a site; it is more or less user-friendly, if carefully handled...|
however, I think I'll like it, if not for else, at least because it'll be something new for the site since over a year of impasse. The impasse was due to me deciding what to do about the database, mostly, and then about the layout.
|written by Yayo on Feb 24, 2008 01:06|
|boh.. I personally dislike ajax, it reminds me of an old cleaning-powder brand. : P|
This ajax thing is going to change the web pages into applications, and I'm not sure I'll like it.
It'd be good if only it'd be grown up over a reliable REAL standard and if people would be able to use it rather than abuse it. : /
But I bet things will be different.. : P
that's why I like to read that you're going to use it only where it's going to be useful! : 3
And about CSS,
splitting style and structure of a webpage is a good idea I think, but it's not so well implemented IMHO. : P
or maybe it's just me having a strange habit of pointing out all the exceptions of the language itself! bleh! >x |
However, I definitely agree about the 1st-lino-then-all-the-rest plan. : 3
If you want, once you're done with the language itself, you can write the docs as plain text, letting people here finding the better html/css *coughs* implementation with a contest or something.
This would let us all help you in some way. eh? : P
|written by Alex on Feb 24, 2008 02:06|
|In fact, I was thinking of spreading help files all over the ZIP archive, with a brief help file in each folder indicating what the folder contains. And then add an overview on syntax rules and other basics, but still in plain text. That would help a lot; I did start an HTML+CSS manual but I do realize it would take time.|
|written by Magnulus on Feb 24, 2008 03:35|
|Actually, as long as that site-specific browser was mac compatible, I'd probably be happy. At least it'd keep some of the unwanted elements out, not that we get that many of them. |