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written by Braveheartii on Apr 18, 2008 17:37
Been trying for two weeks now to get it to download, all I keep getting is a message that says "I.E. can't download the file fpWeynNgjr7i2W4.zip from anywherebb.com. I.E. was not able to open this site try again later". So I downloaded a different browser (Avant) and still same message. I've even tried going straight cd area and Alex's folder, same thing though, any ideas?
doing pushups
written by Megagun on Apr 18, 2008 17:39
As far as I know, Avant uses the Internet Explorer engine, so if IE is not able to download the file, neither will Avant.

You should try giving Firefox a chance..

EDIT: don't try to 'save target as'; instead, just click on the link (at least when browsing the C-Disk manually) since Alex made a custom file handler thing.

And even if that turns out to be the fix to your issues, you should still try Firefox...
written by Braveheartii on Apr 18, 2008 17:46
Firefox can take a long walk off a short pier for all I care
Oh, and I'm not doing the "save target as" trick. Now I'm not saying I didn't try...
└> last changed by Braveheartii on April 19, 2008 at 04:59
rawr
written by Raptorjedi on Apr 18, 2008 17:53
It sounds like an issue with IE, and thus, with Avant too "It runs on Windows 98 and above, including Windows Vista. Internet Explorer version 6 or 7 must be installed."

I suggest trying another browser, if not Firefox, then try Opera.
written by Braveheartii on Apr 18, 2008 18:12
Okay, Opera worked, thx
hello! :) felysian
written by Hello! :) on Apr 18, 2008 21:02
/me derails the thread.

Braveheartii said:
Firefox can take a long walk of a short pier for all I care
Wow! Another there's someone else, on the same forums!

/me tries to put the thread back on track.

It looks like IE8 Beta handles it properly. Alex really should provide a direct download link in the as the main target, and use JavaScript to redirect the click to the custom handler script, the best of both worlds (and Yayo wouldn't have trouble with the C-Disk anymore as well). Or perhaps Alex could just provide a link that says "click here if it doesn't work" which will give the direct download link.
written by Braveheartii on Apr 19, 2008 04:59
Hehe, the only good thing about Firefox is that it is NOT on my computer!
rose pony is best pony
written by Starchaser on Apr 19, 2008 05:23
What have you got against Firefox anyway?

Your not a Windows sympathizer are you?
hello! :) felysian
written by Hello! :) on Apr 19, 2008 05:52
Starchaser said:
What have you got against Firefox anyway?

Your not a Windows sympathizer are you?
I don't like Firefox, and I don't sympathize Windows. Whether or not it's like that with him, I don't like the implication you're making. Because of that comment I'd almost think that you're one of the nutcases who wants nothing better than to destroy Microsoft and all other software companies.

Personally, Firefox turned me off with the lies in the advertising. I have not found a single instance where Firefox (itself) is better than its closed source equivalents.

I find it's the same problem with "Open Source" in general. The "trumpet section*" has pissed me off to the point where I'm considering never to even use Open Source software again. I'm also considering that any software I write, would be specifically designed not to work using wine (ports to Windows & Macs, but never Linux).

Now excuse the rant, but I've read hundreds of arguments and flame wars on the internet; the result is that I have developed a vicious hatred to all sides. I consider myself on my own side, because I've seen arguments that I've agreed with and arguments that I've disagreed with given by all sides of the arguments.

* The "trumpet section" are the fanboys who have zero clue what they are talking about, and yet talk like they know everything.
rose pony is best pony
written by Starchaser on Apr 19, 2008 07:56
I meant nothing of the sort. It was just a simple joke. Even though I do dislike Microsoft I wouldn't set out to destroy them. Thats just insane. And I would just like to point out I am currently using IE7 right now. I do apologize for not making out that I was joking
rawr
written by Raptorjedi on Apr 19, 2008 08:03
I'm just simply not a fan of IE simply because more people use it, and thus it's a target for people looking to cause problems. Back on an older computer, I had some malware/virus/whatever that ran multiple copies of IE everytime I opened it, and I couldn't close them without getting another program to kill them for me. I couldn't even find whatever was causing the problem to kill it, so I switched to Firefox out of need and never looked back.
written by Braveheartii on Apr 19, 2008 10:57
Didn't mean to start a browser debate. Both Hello! and Raptorjedi are correct. To Hello!'s credit they are all bad, in some form or fashion. The original Netscape (my nickname for it was Nutscrape) was clumsy and awkward to use with it's nasty interface and slow response time. I dropped them as soon as MS put in IE and never looked back. IE was simple, much faster for sure and soon intergrated into Windows. Now there is a whole slew of browsers, again to Hello!'s credit none of them do anything better than IE. Well, better put is that none of them do any better than a properly setup and tuned and clean running IE. Now, to Raptorjedi's credit he is right about IE. It is the most commonly used browser, it's on just about every computer since it is intergrated into Windows. Hence it is the most attacked and hacked browser out there. If someone or something gets into or takes over your IE you got hell to pay. Only trick there is to properly protect it from the beginning and keep it that way. Linux was touted as the Windows killer, my experiance didn't prove that at all, and working drivers were far, and few between. Linux has it's uses, no doubt, but it will never be main-stream like Windows. So do I sympathize with MS? No, they have enough money they don't need that from me. Firefox? They tried too hard to be better and beat IE and touted they did, they didn't. I see there is a Firefox 2 out now, haven't tried it, but don't plan too either.
└> last changed by Braveheartii on April 19, 2008 at 12:21
hello! :) felysian
written by Hello! :) on Apr 19, 2008 17:14
Starchaser said:
I meant nothing of the sort. It was just a simple joke. Even though I do dislike Microsoft I wouldn't set out to destroy them. Thats just insane. And I would just like to point out I am currently using IE7 right now. I do apologize for not making out that I was joking
Ok, I appologize for biting your head off (I would've appologized anyway since only the first paragraph was directed at you, the rest was a general rant directed at nobody in particular). It's just that I read what you wrote as: "If you support Firefox then you support the OSS world, if you don't support Firefox you support the 'evil' mega corporations*." Which is the typical OSS/Firefox fanboy mode of thinking (and I see it everywhere and it annoys me to death).

People prefer software for a reason, I see no reason why I should ever try converting them. Besides, just because I don't try converting people from the software they use, doesn't mean I can't bash the software.

* And by their definition there is only 1 and it is Microsoft.
a title is a curious thing...
written by Granpire viking man on Apr 20, 2008 01:30
I don't see what You mean by Firefox is no better than others. To me, its obvious that it's faster, safer, and much more versatile with it's plugins system. I'm on my uncle's Vista computer right now, and ABB works terribly on IE7(it's probably partly due to the dial-up, but not completely). It freezes when I have the tab open, until it's finished loading.

Sometimes I just don't understand your hate for OSS, Hello .
hello! :) felysian
written by Hello! :) on Apr 20, 2008 02:45
Granpire viking man said:
I don't see what You mean by Firefox is no better than others. To me, its obvious that it's faster, safer, and much more versatile with it's plugins system. I'm on my uncle's Vista computer right now, and ABB works terribly on IE7(it's probably partly due to the dial-up, but not completely). It freezes when I have the tab open, until it's finished loading.
The freezing is probably by due to the non-progressive rendering IE does. Basically it defers all calculations until after it finishes loading the page, which is probably the freezing you see.

How do you define faster?
Because there's loading times, rendering times, and all browsers deal with the parts differently.
Edit: The underlying operating system also effects "faster."

(Side note, cold start a fresh installation of Firefox, cold start an installation of Firefox with all your commonly used extensions. Unless it has changed, the cold start time is measurably different.)

How do you define safer?
There are many, many, many, many infinity different ways to be malicious with browsers (or software in general) and it's not always the browser's fault. Different browsers have different ways. Some browser's exploits won't work on another browser.

Security is a nightmare in software development. Even with Noctis: Twilight there are security implications that need to be considered especially since there will be player created content that will be distributed (names, log entries and such).

Is it more versatile because it has a wide variety of free extensions/Add-ons?
Opera is extension/add-on less. I actually like that. Sure trusting a single source does come with it's own problems, but Opera has quite a few of Firefox's add-ons built right into the browser.

I don't know how to read Mozilla's add-ons website, but I think it saying that there are 264 add-ons available for the latest version of Firefox.

IE's also has add-ons, while not all are free, IEAddons.com I think indicates there is an equivalent number of add-ons for Internet Explorer ("Time Savers" section lists over 200).

Granpire viking man said:
Sometimes I just don't understand your hate for OSS, Hello .
Most people won't. Most people won't accept my reasons either. So I don't bother trying to explain.
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