| written by Duskesko on Jun 02, 2008 12:05 |
 | |  | | ![]()  | Cryoburner said: | | What would they do if you didn't pay? Throw you off? : ) |
Buses should have planks. They could make you walk the plank. | |  | |  |
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| written by Trad.a on Jun 03, 2008 09:01 |
| | | | ![]() I bus to university from my small-time town to the city every weekend. Costing me roughly $50 a week? That is like 25 US I guess. Quite a bit, eh?
Once I learn to cook, I'm so flatting. So. With vegetable oil; cause real oil is so freaking expensive these days! Have you tried purchasing a bottle recently!? Crazy days!
Seriously though, petrol has hit $2 a litre here! Big deal! | | | | |
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| | | | ![]() Well, by the litre, here, it's about $1.06. And juding by your 50->25 conversion rate from before, I'd say it's about the same price where you are.  | | | | |
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| written by Tom on Jun 04, 2008 00:22 |
 | |  | | ![]() | Trad.a said: | | Once I learn to cook, I'm so flatting. So. With vegetable oil; cause real oil is so freaking expensive these days! Have you tried purchasing a bottle recently!? Crazy days! |
You may want to explain "flatting" to those of us in the opposite hemisphere (!).
Also, cooking is easy. Cooking well, on the other hand...of course, it depends on what you're cooking...
What kind of oil is "real" oil? Olive, canola, rapeseed, cottonseed, linseed, corn oil, peanut oil, sesame oil, or some other type? If olive, you have to get extra virgin, the other stuff is terrible (as I found to my detriment a week or two ago.) | |  | |  |
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| written by Trad.a on Jun 04, 2008 01:26 |
| | | | ![]() | Medeivalstargazer said: | | Well, by the litre, here, it's about $1.06. And juding by your 50->25 conversion rate from before, I'd say it's about the same price where you are. |
1.28387 * 1.06 = 1.3609022
Actually I lied. A kiwi dollar is roughly 1.3 Americos. So petrol over there is 1.3 NZ right? We are getting mighty ripped!
Question for all: If oil ran out, what are the chances of a steampunklike global culture emerging? | | | | |
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 | |  | | ![]() Outside of fiction? Slim to none 
Chances are the world would just collapse, and we'd be living like people did a hundred years ago, only worse, because they didn't have automatic weapons and missiles a hundred years ago | |  | |  |
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| | | | ![]() If oil ran out, a steampunklike global culture could emerge, but it would last only as long as the coal does. | | | | |
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| | | | Unless you use something a little more renewable in your boilers. | | | | |
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| | | | ![]() I don't see one ever emerging on a global scale. Small pockets of them maybe, but not global. The only way global steam power would happen is if we switched to it before we ran out of oil. Once we run out of oil, it's already too late, people will go crazy, society would collapse and we'd be riding horses and carriages around. | | | | |
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  | | | | ![]() | Raptorjedi said: | Outside of fiction? Slim to none
Chances are the world would just collapse, and we'd be living like people did a hundred years ago, only worse, because they didn't have automatic weapons and missiles a hundred years ago |
Of course those only last as long as the supply does. The missiles would probably run out real fast, and automatic weapons would probably be abandoned in favor of something less wasteful. Sure, they're great at killing people and all, but at 1000 bullets a minute, you're going to run empty real fast.
And with the deterioration and collapse of transport and economy, getting more ammo is gonna be tough.
Before long we'll be shooting arrows and swinging swords again. Well, okay. I don't think pistols will go anywhere. It'll probably be more like the early 18th century again. | | | | |
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 | | | | ![]() We might run out of missiles, but bullets are easy as pie to make. Just meltdown things we don't need anymore, coins or cars for instance, and then repack it in a shell casing with some gun powder and it'd probably be good for shooting again in no time. | | | | |
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| | | | ![]() True, that would work for a while until you run out of the metal required. But the you can just reuse all of the fired ammunition, and probably be able to maintain indefinitely.
The gunpowder would probably be slightly trickier to manage but probably isn't a real issue. There's always substitutes.
I was mostly speaking for new ammunition. I forgot that it is possible to either recycle spent rounds or obtain the metal from.. other sources. Duh, Recycling! Totally new concept to me! | | | | |
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| written by Tom on Jun 04, 2008 23:36 |
| | | | ![]() | Trad.a said: | | Question for all: If oil ran out, what are the chances of a steampunklike global culture emerging? |
Very high, assuming Cory Doctorow becomes Secretary-General of the UN. | | | | |
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 | | | | ![]() | Lightning4 said: | | Raptorjedi said: | Outside of fiction? Slim to none
Chances are the world would just collapse, and we'd be living like people did a hundred years ago, only worse, because they didn't have automatic weapons and missiles a hundred years ago |
Of course those only last as long as the supply does. The missiles would probably run out real fast, and automatic weapons would probably be abandoned in favor of something less wasteful. Sure, they're great at killing people and all, but at 1000 bullets a minute, you're going to run empty real fast.
And with the deterioration and collapse of transport and economy, getting more ammo is gonna be tough.
Before long we'll be shooting arrows and swinging swords again. Well, okay. I don't think pistols will go anywhere. It'll probably be more like the early 18th century again. |
So Einstein was wrong, World War III will be fought with sticks and stones. | | | | |
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