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written by Deanfrz on Jun 28, 2008 04:23
Okay, this one might be Americans only, but you all might wanna look it up. Best part is it was supposed to go up for a vote before the end of June. When they realized it was gonna pass, they decided to postpone it until after the 4th of July. I wonder why.

Anyways, that's House Concurrent Resolution 362. Concurrent means the Senate is looking at a similar version, and they should both be voting at about the same time.

Make sure you talk to all your friends in Iran and the US navy and wish them all luck.
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written by Tom on Jun 28, 2008 04:40
While worrying, I don't think this is cause for alarm just yet. The resolution is basically "sense of" legislation, which is a formal expression of an opinion - they require only a simple majority to pass, but have no legal force.

They do, however, serve as an indicator as to the way Congress feels about things, and are often used to influence the President or other members of Congress or to send a message to foreign governments.

Unfortunately, the contents of this opinion are not particularly surprising, given what's been discussed in the past few months.

Even if it passes, I think that might be a good thing, if it gets more people both inside the US and elsewhere to take a look at what's going on and put some more pressure on their representatives, diplomats, etc.
written by Deanfrz on Jun 28, 2008 05:03
You dont think Ol' George'll do it in a heart beat? Without using any force sure, but about 5 minutes in "someone" will start shooting and the navy will be forced to defend itself.
faces or a vase?
written by Tom on Jun 28, 2008 05:09
Deanfrz said:
You dont think Ol' George'll do it in a heart beat? Without using any force sure, but about 5 minutes in "someone" will start shooting and the navy will be forced to defend itself.
Oh, sure, I think he'd like to. But I don't really think this resolution matters much in that case. If he wants to do it, he will, with or without the support of Congress. He's got enough support from the hardline RWAs - the only people supporting him now aren't going to change their minds for any reason.
written by Deanfrz on Jun 28, 2008 05:49
Unfortunately, it would not seem a large number from both parties are behind an action that can lead only to war. The scary thing is it'll leave the US looking almost clean.

To the thoughtless serfs that make up most of America, the only thing they'll be thinking is "how dare those towel heads fire on our ships!"
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written by Stargazer on Jun 29, 2008 17:54
This one?

It feels a lot like another one of those "US world police" kind of things. Never really liked that, as it tends to bring the wrong message. Still, I agree that the fewer nations who has nuclear capabilities, the better for all mankind. As long as this can be done peacefully, without warfare, and with full international cooperation and support, I see no reason to object.

If however the US intends to go at this alone, and on a gungho basis, well, we all know what happened (and keeps happening) in Iraq. We don't need a reprise of that mess.

The legislation says itself though:

HCR 362 said:
Whereas nothing in this resolution shall be construed as an authorization of the use of force against Iran
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written by Medeivalstargazer on Jun 30, 2008 02:51
Deanfrz said:
To the thoughtless serfs that make up most of America, the only thing they'll be thinking is "how dare those towel heads fire on our ships!"
Broad generalizations ftmfl.
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