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written by Kia7100 on Jan 23, 2009 04:49
Hi and I'm back. I've stopped using Noctis CE for a while but decided to use it again! But I'm completely clueless about the whole inbox-outbox thing. What are they and what do they do? can someone give me lots of details on that? Also, whats the latest Noctis version I can download again? Thanks for all your help and I hope to talk to everyone some more in the coming months.
r'lyeh sweet r'lyeh
written by Neuzd on Jan 23, 2009 09:38
It looks there's a constant percentage of newcomers that do not want to spend some minutes trying to figure out the answers to their questions by themselves.
I hope you won't wait another 5 years to come back to read the answers, that's another diffused attitude: not showing one's face again after having posted questions.

Don't think I want to address you as a troublemaker, it's just that I find this attitude out of place, particularily considered the nature of Noctis itself. It's the mother of exploration and discovery programs, how can you possibly want to be told what to do?

It's like having a sports car with an auto-pilot. Where's the fun?

By the way, keep in mind the differencies between Noctis IV (NIV) and Noctis IV CE (NICE).
I assume you know what I'm talking about and that the two version are not "compatible" at least for what concernes most of the latest NICE releases.
Officiallly, NIV didn't receive any update during these years, the latest build is v3.1. I think it's still the same as when you were here last time. There have been modifications to it, though.
The result is NIV+: little gameplay improvements over the original NIV engine+universe.
NICE did see many release instead. Latest (probably last) release is 11.6a.

(Think as NIV and NIV+ as being "compatible", not the correct word probably, but at least that gives a correct impression)

About the inbox/outbox, I'm not giving you 'lots of details', really read the manual about that, I'll just say it's the way/service that lets explorers share the labels and notes they assigned to objects in the galaxy .
Actually the situation for the two programs is this:
NICE's inbox management has been suspended several months ago. It never worked right by the way, the GUIDE hasn't seen a single entry in all the 18 updates. The service could be revived and a couple of persons have expressed interest in having a look at this problem (one was me), but nothing has been done so far.

NIV's inbox management on the contrary has just started again after 4 years of hyatus.

Links to the programs' downloads.
And yes to exactly know what you want to download you have to read (I'm being critical, I perfectly know).
Noctis
NIV+
NICE

I'm sorry I may have sounded harsh, but I really didn't want to leave you without an answer though I can't keep myself in noticing that your lack of initiative and curiosity is something I don't see fitting very well in the Noctis gameplay.
written by Cryoburner on Jan 23, 2009 12:36
Wow, that was a long post. I don't think you answered Kia's main question though. : P

Kia7100 said:
But I'm completely clueless about the whole inbox-outbox thing. What are they and what do they do?
The inboxes and outboxes are a system for sharing information written about the galaxy, including names of planets and stars, and guide entries containing explorers' findings. Details on how to name objects and read and write entries can be found in the manual included with Noctis IV. Once you've written entries, you can export an outbox, and submit it through the 'tell us' link at the top of this page. The submissions will be periodically compiled into a new inbox, which can then be imported into your copy of Noctis. The most recent inbox update was released last month, and can be found here. Alternately, if you haven't made any guide entries or named any objects yourself, you can just redownload Noctis, which has been updated with the latest entries.

What Neuzd was saying about Noctis and NICE being incompatible, is that their inboxes and outboxes use a different format, so entries written for Noctis won't appear in NICE, and vice verse. Additionally, the planets in NICE have different surface features than those in Noctis, so they wouldn't be relevant anyway. That's where NIV+ comes into play. It adds some of NICE's features and fixes to standard Noctis, while keeping the planet terrain and guide format the same as Noctis IV's. This way, it should work with the Noctis IV starmap and guide.
written by Kia7100 on Jan 24, 2009 00:26
Ah, forgive me Neuzd for coming off as the type of person who just randomly shows up again after a half a year or more absence and asks completly newb questions that I could have found out quite easily myself. Yes, I realize that I should have done that. Try to understand that I'm under alot of stress for exams and I was tired when I wrote that...pathetic excuse but I'll try harder to find out answers for myself next time.

Back to the point...
I already know much about NICE and Noctis as I used to play them and go on the forums quite alot. I think it was under a different username...darklight or something like that. I'm going to try and find my old one again and use it instead of kia7100.. When I do that I'llrequest that kia7100 is deleted so don't worry about me keeping multiple accounts!

As for the inbox-putbox thing, I read the manual but thanks for both of your help! Hopefully the outboxes getting running smoothly and I look forward to playing Noctis and making some new entries in the Discoveries thread. Thanks again for all your help.
doing pushups
written by Megagun on Jan 24, 2009 18:19
You actually had two older accounts..

Dark_Light7100
and..
Dark_Light

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