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written by Serpens on Jul 09, 2009 17:16
Wshew, finally!

http://serpens.selb.us/


I'd like to finally make public the first version of my idea - the Home Systems Project. Concentrated on Balastrackonastreya, Ylastravenya and Fenia, its main function should be providing a place for photographic sector surveys for every world in the home systems.

I decided to take on such a project because, as I see it, the home systems are almos criminally underestimated. Yes, people like to see the Suricrasian Cubes and wander about on Felysia from time to time, but not much more. Because exploring outer space is tempting, Stardrifters turn away from the Felysian systems and look for surprises elsewhere. Because of this, Felysian worlds, and generally all worlds in the home systems, are left underexplored. What can be found in the GUIDE notes only covers the tip of the iceberg. For example, Vericalya has a total of fifteen notes. Is this enough? There's still a lot to be found, and my site ought to help with this.

Of course, the Felysian worlds with ruins are the most interesting targets, but let's not abandon others. EVERY world of the home systems has its own page and has or will have sector surveys.

Oh, yes... I should mention that this site is going to rely heavily on contributions. If you want to help, just go to any sector on any world and do a photographic survey, probably with a description included, and then contact me. That's not to say the site is empty and worthless now. There is some material, quite detailed in several cases. You'll be easily able to locate major landmarks of already covered sectors using the surveys which I already did for the project. Anyway, just take a look... And read the introduction and help pages for more information. And credits! Naturally, this is only the first version. As time progresses (and NIV+ gains more features), many things will get upgraded.

I must also mention that because of my terrible working speed, this wasn't supposed to be made public in several days. However, I had reasons to make a better effort today. More details in the introduction. Let's consider this as a birthday present (kind of) for neuzd, who was VERY helpful with this project. Happy deja vu again.

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written by Starchaser on Jul 09, 2009 17:31
I have a few images of the Felysian megaliths hidden away somewhere. I shall dig them up and convert to .png in the next few days.

Also, a note on the ads. For the first few minutes I was thinking "What ads? Where?".
r'lyeh sweet r'lyeh
written by Neuzd on Jul 09, 2009 17:41
Serpens said:
Wshew, finally!
Exactly : P
Just joking, I encourage studying.

Anyways I'm happy to see the Home Systems Project getting introduced to the masses.

Thanks again for the deja vus and since this is a kind of present for me...STICK YOUR FILTHY HANDS OUT OF MY PROPERTY!...erm... : P
written by Eurysilas on Jul 09, 2009 19:58
Gosh, I had fired up Noctis just the other day and was noticing that, even for Felysia, THE home system, there is very little data (~200 comments. A lot when compared with other objects? Not sure. But I expected a few hundred more....).

I think I'll contribute. I'm not going to commit myself to any number or sectors or worlds, but rest assured, SOMETHING will be contributed.

Now.....About the actual surveys.....You just want enough to give an impression of what the sector is like, correct? Say....A minimum of five photos and a max of nine, with at least one being a pano?
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written by Serpens on Jul 09, 2009 20:41
Eurysilas said:
Now.....About the actual surveys.....You just want enough to give an impression of what the sector is like, correct? Say....A minimum of five photos and a max of nine, with at least one being a pano?
Actually, this is up to you. Just don't make the survey TOO detailed, because right now, the space available is limited. I hope that this is going to change in the future. But if a sector is particularly interesting (like 127.54 on Felysia), don't be afraid to take 25-30 photos and add an on-the-spot report.

I'd like to thank you and Starchaser for your will to help. Sadly, now my will to explore is not as great as it used to be, so contributions are critical for the project's life. From the very beginning, I have envisioned it as a combined effort, rather than one man's property (yes, it's OURS, neuzd ).

Also, if you think that an already existing survey is incomplete, I'll gladly accept additional material, whether photos or text. Perhaps with time, some sectors which deserve much attention will end up with an elaborate analysis...

By the way, since photos are not everything (and text takes up far less space anyway), I'm planning to extend the project with articles eventually. They would be rather freeform, I think - anything from a scientific analysis to a poem. Naturally, the theme would still remain the same - home systems. So, if anyone would like to write an article, also let me know, it will eventually end up as a part of the project.

OK, sorry, enough rambling for now...
written by 4616599 on Jul 10, 2009 09:53
I'll probably contribute. So far, I've only been to the home systems (gasp!) 3 times. I really have to visit more often.

Serpens said:

Perhaps with time, some sectors which deserve much attention will end up with an elaborate analysis...

By the way, since photos are not everything (and text takes up far less space anyway), I'm planning to extend the project with articles eventually. They would be rather freeform, I think - anything from a scientific analysis to a poem. Naturally, the theme would still remain the same - home systems. So, if anyone would like to write an article, also let me know, it will eventually end up as a part of the project.

OK, sorry, enough rambling for now...
I'm wondering; how about 'non-canon' stuff like timelines of the homeworlds? I'm pretty sure everyone has had different ideas about them(e.g the central Wetwick continent was the administrative center of the Fenian Federation, Broken Mirror was an independent trade colony, Vericalya was briefly independent from Felysia following a civil war before being reintegrated after the lithium eaters struck the system, etc.)

and...wow, I'm surprised to see '4616599' listed near Skinnymon in the credits section! Surely I don't belong in that category!
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r'lyeh sweet r'lyeh
written by Neuzd on Jul 10, 2009 11:20
I should warn you that you're messing with the only subject that actually has a kind of official explanation.
This comes straight from the source, in practice literally translated.

Peach: historic naval base.
Pleasance: residential zone.
Wetwick: peripheral colonial world.

I think I remember to already have talked about this.
Also what about the brief history given out in the manual? I always considered that the only canon events.

4616599 said:
and...wow, I'm surprised to see '4616599' listed near Skinnymon in the credits section! Surely I don't belong in that category!
...really? I thought it was noticeable that there was a group of stardrifters particularly active during the last months.... : P

[EDIT...hoping this gets noticed]
Just a suggestion: I would have written 4.6M's explorer name, instead of his ABB login...but I guess this depends more on how he prefers to be acknowledged.
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written by Serpens on Jul 10, 2009 11:50
When it comes to history, as neuzd said, when there is an official explanation at hand (coming from the source or manual), generally let's stick to it. However, if you have *evidence* suggesting that things might be a bit different from the official version, don't be afraid to construct a revisionist hypothesis.

As for things not really included in the canon history, basically see above. You're free to come up with ideas and conceptions, but you're required to present evidence or traces to support them. This might be a fictional setting, but a historian's work always remains the same - reconstructing the past based on facts.
written by Eurysilas on Jul 10, 2009 15:45
Unfortunately, due to the fact Noctis freezes when left unattended, I will be withdrawing from this project. No hard feelings?
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written by Serpens on Jul 10, 2009 16:35
Eurysilas said:
Unfortunately, due to the fact Noctis freezes when left unattended, I will be withdrawing from this project. No hard feelings?
It's OK. I'm not angry, I never require anyone to promise anything. Hope you'll manage to get rid of the problem eventually. (maybe try making a thread about it)

4616599, so should I change your AnywhereBB login to something else? I'm not even sure what this "explorer name" is. Is it "4.6M"?
written by Eurysilas on Jul 10, 2009 23:21
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It's OK. I'm not angry, I never require anyone to promise anything. Hope you'll manage to get rid of the problem eventually. (maybe try making a thread about it).
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Well, I would make a thread about it, but a couple things make the prospects for resolving this bug dim:

1. As I'm sure you know, A LOT of Noctis' code is Assembly. I don't think anybody on the board besides Alex understands this particular type of Assembly. So, even if they could identify what's causing the bug, how'd they fix it?

2. I'm not running this through native DOS- it's being run through FreeDOS in a VM, essentially. If it's a problem with either FreeDOS or the VM, I'm still back at square one.

If I thought it would help my situation I'd submit a plea for a "Bugfixes only" edition of Noctis IV....But it's not likely to help this particular circumstance.

*Looks to SL, Megagun or Neuzd for confirmation of the above*
doing pushups
written by Megagun on Jul 11, 2009 16:30
Try dosemu (dosemu-freedos package in Ubuntu, AFAIK).
written by Eurysilas on Jul 11, 2009 17:32
I am. That's what DOSEmu- FreeDOS is, according to the developers (unless I've misunderstood): FreeDOS in a custom VM.
doing pushups
written by Megagun on Jul 11, 2009 17:43
Hm, then there's probably nothing else that you can do, other than booting into selb's or leniad's bootable Noctis, and playing from there...
written by Kayu on Sep 03, 2009 23:06
Serpens said:
So, if anyone would like to write an article, also let me know, it will eventually end up as a part of the project.
I would love to help you with this project!
I'm working on Peach at the moment and when I've gotten roughly half way done with the planet, I'll write an article on my findings. I will just report on the sectors with ruins, unless you'd like a short description detailing the types of life and flora that is unique to this world, of course.

Yes, I know it borders on madness when I say I will visit each and every sector. Don't worry; I normally drop down and if a sector is a repeat and lacks ruins, I simply return to the ship. So, should an article pertain to each major sector? Or should I make a planetary synopsis? Both, if I feel like it?

Also, I've taken a few images on some of the worlds in Fenia, Ylastravenya, and B... well, home.

Suricrasia-18.60

Is something like this alright?

If so, I'll send the other images I've taken by way of PM.
I understand I seem too eager to help, but I strangely feel drawn to the home systems more so than the far reaches of the galaxy.
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