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rawr
written by Raptorjedi on Jul 11, 2010 18:21
Happy Birthday Buuks, I'm sorry that it has to be on a stupid day like the World Cup Finals :3=
deep into the jungle
written by Ponche on Jul 13, 2010 08:40
What can I say?

Spain has deserved it!
written by Cryoburner on Jul 13, 2010 09:34
So, does that mean they won or lost?

I'll just assume the match ended in a tie, and everyone went home winners!
krasnyj bibliotekar
written by Serpens on Jul 13, 2010 09:55
Cryoburner said:
I'll just assume the match ended in a tie, and everyone went home winners!
The final goal was scored immediately after the referee gave a goal kick for Spain when it should be corner kick for Netherlands. Also, it was scored by a player who should have received a red card for attacking another player without ball half an hour before. So, I say it was a tie and everyone went home as losers. Or martial artists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CekIw5moE5c&feature=related
deep into the jungle
written by Ponche on Jul 13, 2010 10:52
Serpens said:
Also, it was scored by a player who should have received a red card for attacking another player without ball half an hour before. So, I say it was a tie and everyone went home as losers. Or martial artists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CekIw5moE5c&feature=related
???

The goal was scored by Iniesta, a spanish player obviously. The martial artist was De Jong, from Netherlands... Did you watch the match? Do you suffer color-blindness?
krasnyj bibliotekar
written by Serpens on Jul 13, 2010 11:10
I never said de Jong's foul and Iniesta's foul were the same situation. Here's Iniesta's attack without ball, right after some acting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp24pQ2URJ4

This was one of the biggest problems of this final. Both sides chose to brutalize and cheat their way through, rather than play soccer. The Netherlands were openly brutal, Spain mostly played dirty when the referee wasn't looking.
deep into the jungle
written by Ponche on Jul 13, 2010 12:14
Your concept of acting is a little strange for me, sorry. Netherlands played totally unfair the whole match, just to avoid Spain playing its soccer. Red card is what De Jong did, not what Iniesta did,
i haz title: speed-g-dof
written by Speeder on Jul 13, 2010 21:14
FIFA blocked the iniesta attack video (fishy...)

It was this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSo--jJLOsI
krasnyj bibliotekar
written by Serpens on Jul 13, 2010 21:50
Speeder said:
FIFA blocked the iniesta attack video (fishy...)

It was this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSo--jJLOsI
It was this situation. My link was a replay showing a close-up of the whole thing.
deep into the jungle
written by Ponche on Jul 13, 2010 22:10
Guys, compared with the Street Fighter kick of De Jong, that's nothing, and De Jong just received a yellow card. Just accept that Spain was superior, as in the whole World Cup.

The only hope of Netherlands was to achieve the penalties.
i haz title: speed-g-dof
written by Speeder on Jul 14, 2010 00:24
To me, what was bad is not who won, or lost, or anything like that (even because I don't care), but the judge was a REALLY bad one...

Iniste should have got a red card there.

Jung Sub-Zero kick too.
doing pushups
written by Megagun on Jul 14, 2010 01:08
The ref was really odd. Yellow cards where none should be given, no cards where red/yellow should be given, plus the entire failure to notice obvious corner thing at the end. Both Iniesta and De Jong should have gotten red cards there, no exceptions. Behaviour like that is unacceptable.

I think that he put his mark on the match a tad too much, too soon, aswell. Four yellow cards in the first 20 minutes or so? What was worst was that he started to hand out warnings AFTER he'd handed out 6 or so yellow cards, rather than BEFORE, and plenty of the warnings he handed out would have been yellows if they were comitted sooner, according to his own standards.

As for the violence in the match: personally I thought it wasn't that bad, compared to The Netherlands-Brazil and The Netherlands-Portugal four years ago...

Now the real question is, when will FIFA adopt video-checking so that bad ref decisions can be avoided?
absent more than alex
written by Shadowlord on Jul 20, 2010 01:22
The third place match was a much better than the first place match. As for the final match, the Netherlands' defense seemed to consist of knocking the Spaniards down as frequently as possible. Spain ended up retaliating but not doing it as frequently as the netherlands (they had half as many yellow cards, IIRC).

So I had this post (but better) all typed up here, and I pressed another letter key, and the tab closed, as if it thought I was holding down a control key or something. WTF? Never going to buy a wireless keyboard for myself. Ugh. This thing 'forgets' to press keys, and 'forgets' to UNpress keys. And apparently it just decided to randomly pretend to press control or alt while I was typing...

Luckily, when I hit reopen closed tab, google chrome had remembered everything I had typed, and it was all still there!

And then postline erased it all before I could do anything. >=(
written by Cryoburner on Jul 20, 2010 10:30
Postline's awesome like that.
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