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written by Kristos on Sep 17, 2010 14:14
Some time back, I installed Google Chrome. It was way smoother running than both firefox and ie - the famous choppy slowness of javascript simply vanished before my eyes, like melted butter on a cheese grater!

Well, I heard Opera was similarly awesome. Apparently all too similarly awesome. I installed the latest Opera some time last year. And it automagically removed Google chrome. Replaced it! Not a scap of it left on the computer! What's more, the buttons and layout where rather similar to Chrome. I think all my settings and history and stuff transferred to Opera. The installer never mentioned Chrome or anything like this.

Then I went to login to my college account and it wouldn't let me login, displaying a message saying "Your browser has an extremely serious security vulnerability! That browser is not allowed to login here." or something like that.

Weird, no? Any thoughts?
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written by Speeder on Sep 17, 2010 16:26
Opera unfortunately still have the typical problems of being a proprietary browser (like random glitches that don't get fixed... versions that need downgrading on some machines, etc...)
written by Kristos on Sep 17, 2010 19:55
Well, if it's proprietary, then it certainly shouldn't automatically remove Google Chrome from my system!
doing pushups
written by Megagun on Sep 17, 2010 21:47
Chrome installs itself in some strange place somewhere under Documents and Settings; do a system search for Chrome.exe or try start -> run -> "Chrome"
written by Cryoburner on Sep 17, 2010 21:51
Hah... I'm quite sure Opera doesn't remove any other browsers when installing. If you kept the box checked to make it your default browser, it should become the default though.

Recent versions of Google's applications have been hiding themselves in the "Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Google" directory, so try looking there. Some of those folders are hidden, so you'll have to enable viewing them in your folder options, if they aren't already. Apparently, Google considers this a logical place to install applications. : |
written by Kristos on Sep 18, 2010 03:17
Cryoburner said:
Hah... I'm quite sure Opera doesn't remove any other browsers when installing. If you kept the box checked to make it your default browser, it should become the default though.

Recent versions of Google's applications have been hiding themselves in the "Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Google" directory, so try looking there. Some of those folders are hidden, so you'll have to enable viewing them in your folder options, if they aren't already. Apparently, Google considers this a logical place to install applications. : |
Yes, the chrome user data is still there, but the actual program is gone. I tried to run chrome from the run dialog -> nothing. I did a hard drive search for chrome.exe -> nothing. It was there before. I actually saw it the day before I installed Opera. And I ran chrome the same day I installed Opera. I was browsing with Chrome when I read somebody claiming Opera was really good to, so I decided to compare. So I downloaded Opera, and ran the installer. Ran Opera - seemed to work fine. Go to pop up Chrome to compare... no chrome shortcut in start menu anymore! So I go to the exe file location. Also gone! I search for it. Nowhere... I check in Add/Remove Programs, it's not even in there anymore... I'm telling you, Opera killed Chrome. No, not killed. Vapourized!
written by Cryoburner on Sep 18, 2010 04:19
Well, I can only assume you may have bumped an uninstall shortcut or something along the way. There's an uninstall link in Chrome's start menu folder, after all. I think it would have probably made the news if a browser went out of its way to remove another during the installation process. A quick Google search didn't turn up anything like that. I did notice some other people mentioning Chrome disappearing, but it appears to have been caused by security/backup/update software that was randomly deleting or restoring contents of the application data folder for some reason or another. It might have been something along those lines.
written by Kristos on Sep 18, 2010 07:14
I've also noticed how very similar the toolbars and buttons at the top of both browsers are.

Seems like Chrome would ask me before uninstalling. And I wouldn't run through uninstall dialogs assuming it's an installer. I read every dialog. I don't know what went on behind the scenes, but it was weird.
i haz title: speed-g-dof
written by Speeder on Sep 18, 2010 14:31
They...

They...

MERGED.

BEHOLD THE EVIL AI BROWNSER!
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written by Ferinex on Oct 19, 2010 04:25
I have actually had Chrome disappear on me thrice as well. It did not coincide with the install of any other software; it simply vanished! No matter, though, as I use Opera primarily and keep Chrome only as backup.
written by Kynreeve on Oct 19, 2010 12:48
Maybe it just became jealous of you installing Opera?
Oh Google, you insidious corp...
ah didn't learn anything!
written by Selbio on Oct 20, 2010 01:25
Ferinex said:
I have actually had Chrome disappear on me thrice as well. It did not coincide with the install of any other software; it simply vanished! No matter, though, as I use Opera primarily and keep Chrome only as backup.
I noticed that when I boot into Windows and Chrome auto-updates, its choices are "Update now" and "Uninstall Chrome" or something. I keep going "I don't want to update, so I'll click the other bu- what."
written by Kristos on Oct 26, 2010 02:29
Selbio said:
Ferinex said:
I have actually had Chrome disappear on me thrice as well. It did not coincide with the install of any other software; it simply vanished! No matter, though, as I use Opera primarily and keep Chrome only as backup.
I noticed that when I boot into Windows and Chrome auto-updates, its choices are "Update now" and "Uninstall Chrome" or something. I keep going "I don't want to update, so I'll click the other bu- what."
I suppose that may be what happened... maybe. I still find it interesting that the toolbars where almost identical.
wah... waall-eee
written by Magnulus on Nov 06, 2010 13:23
I know that this will come as a shock to a lot of people who know me here, but I haven't touched Opera in months. I switched to Chrome some time during the spring, and haven't really looked back. The bookmarks synch across installations, it's fairly glitch-less (even though Flash crashes are more frequent than in Opera) and it's compact and pretty. When I saw that Opera had updated to look exactly like Chrome a few months ago, I was a bit "huh?"

That having been said, I'm still in awe of the Opera devs and their early innovation. They started doing tabs. No browser with any self-respect will leave out tabbed browsing. They did mouse gestures too, which is kind of a precursor to touch-screen swipe controls and stuff, though it hasn't become a hit with modern browsers. They were also the first to really pay any proper attention to ACID tests.
written by Cryoburner on Nov 06, 2010 19:24
Magnulus said:
The bookmarks synch across installations,
Actually, Opera's had that feature since 2007, called Opera Link. When enabled, it automatically syncs your bookmarks, notes and other data across all your computers and mobile devices running Opera.

As for them making the browser look a bit more like Chrome, I wouldn't really say my Opera install looks much like my Chromium install, though that's probably in part due to having Opera's layout customized to a fair degree. Chrome definitely has a 'clean' look to its layout, but it doesn't offer much in the way of customization.

I do use Chromium from time to time though, as it can be nice to view a quick web page without having Opera load my default browsing session. It's a decent, efficient IE alternative. I can't really see using it as my primary browser though, as it doesn't offer the features I've come to expect with Opera.
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