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written by Nopseudoidea on Nov 16, 2011 12:30
Hello everybody,

I recently changed my computer (it didn't want to start) for a new one with Windows 7 64 bits on it. And now I can't run Noctis, because it's not compatible with my 64 bit Windows.

I can't access to th bios so for the USB disk it's impossible, and I don't want to load a new VM every time because it's very long to boot ...

Can everyone help me ?

Thanks.
written by E_net4 on Nov 16, 2011 13:28
Well, the first advice I would give is the USB-disk build. It's strange you can't access the BIOS... is it passworded or something?

A weak alternative is to run Noctis on DOSBox. It's extremely slow, but it works.
written by Nopseudoidea on Nov 16, 2011 15:51
I tried the USB boot, and I can't access the bios. Whatever I'm doing (every F* key, esc ...) it just boots Windows.

On DOSBox ? I tried too and I had a message "this cannot be run in DOS mode", well I perhaps should try installing Win95 ^^ .

With a virtual machine can I boot the USB Boot ?
standing on my title
written by Gligar on Nov 16, 2011 16:34
Nopseudoidea said:
On DOSBox ? I tried too and I had a message "this cannot be run in DOS mode", well I perhaps should try installing Win95 ^^ .
Are you trying to run Go!.exe under DOSBox?

As I recall, Go!.exe is just a Win32 stub that calls modules\noctis.exe. Under DOSBox, it shouldn't be needed. You could just run noctis.exe directly.
written by Nopseudoidea on Nov 16, 2011 16:54
Well this works under dosbox but it's really slow. Can't I make something to make it faster ?

Commands in dosbox :
mount c c:\dosgames -freesize 1000
mount d c:\dosgames\noctis
d:
cd data (or the noctis folder, don't remember the name)
noctis
written by E_net4 on Nov 16, 2011 17:58
You can increase the number of cycles (Ctrl + F12) and increase Frameskipping (Ctrl + F8), but there are limits to the performance you can achieve.

Whatever computer you're using should allow going into the BIOS. Try searching for documentation on your motherboard. As a last resort, there may be software running over the OS to control the motherboard.
ah didn't learn anything!
written by Selbio on Nov 16, 2011 18:07
DOSBox needs some configuration to run at a good speed: http://anynowhere.com/thread/4458

Also, your BIOS might be accessed with the delete or escape key or something else, or you may need to get to the POST screen before the key will be accepted. There is certainly a way: googling "<manufacturer> BIOS key" may help.
written by Nopseudoidea on Nov 16, 2011 18:08
Well, I set core to dynamic in the options and with a number of cycles around 200000 I finally obtain 60FPS, except during the landing phases that are quite long ...

That's cool I still can play it !
r'lyeh sweet r'lyeh
written by Neuzd on Nov 17, 2011 11:07
Nopseudoidea said:
60FPS
I scream sacrilege!
written by E_net4 on Nov 17, 2011 11:10
Neuzd said:
Nopseudoidea said:
60FPS
I scream sacrilege!
Yeah, I also thought this was commonly unachievable in Noctis.
r'lyeh sweet r'lyeh
written by Neuzd on Nov 17, 2011 13:45
E_net4 said:
Yeah, I also thought this was commonly unachievable in Noctis.
Particularly if you consider that the 17 frames per second cap is hardcoded into the source.
No pseudo idea how he did that.....right, sorry for the terrible pun : P
i do my own stun-- avatars
written by Albeyamakiir on Nov 17, 2011 21:08
Neuzd said:
Nopseudoidea said:
60FPS
I scream sacrilege!
It's "I call shenanigans". ; )
written by Cryoburner on Nov 18, 2011 05:18
Actually, Alex removed the frame rate limiter from the official Noctis IV distribution for some period of time, but re-enabled it after finding that some newer computers were running it too fast. And NICE has a toggle-able frame rate limiter. It wouldn't be bad if there were an option for a higher, but still capped frame rate though, like around 30fps.
i haz title: speed-g-dof
written by Speeder on Nov 18, 2011 10:09
I think it is capped at 17 because that is the speed it ran when first developed and thus all logic is based on it running on that speed.
written by Nopseudoidea on Nov 18, 2011 17:14
I just sped up the emulator, so Noctis reached 60FPS ^^
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