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written by Kristos on Apr 04, 2014 15:33
Do any of you good folk have lucid dreams?

I've always had lots of trouble sleeping. I estimate that I get, on average, 6.2 hours of sleep over each 24 hour period. At least I sometimes get some great dreams out of my sleep. Also, I've had a lot of sleep paralysis. The first time it happened (a few years ago) I felt certain I was experiencing internal organ failure! Now it is still frightful, but I accept it and let the fear wash over me.

I can only remember having one possibly lucid dream experience. I fell asleep listening to music, and in my dream continued to hear the music. In my dream I was panickedly trying to figure out where the music was coming from. Eventually I remembered that I had gone to sleep listening to that music, and I realized that I was dreaming. But then I woke up.

Eleven days ago a friend encouraged me to look into lucid dreaming. I immediately began lucid dreaming training, mainly focusing on Wake-Initiated Lucid Dreaming (WILD) since I always wake up throughout the night. I've also been trying to write down my dreams every day. If nothing else, the dream journaling has really helped me remember my dreams and I hope to get good story ideas out of them.

That first night of lucid dreaming attempt, and most every night since, I've quite readily had a number of "drifting" episodes in which the world around me fades into darkness, and my body starts tingling and spinning in circles. I've had probably around 20 or more "drifts" and the longest one lasted about 60 seconds, but none of them ended in sleep. Even when I was able to completely relax into the "drift" I always returned to being fully awake. So, no successful WILDs yet, but I'll keep trying.

Some nights I experience all-out insomnia. After about four hours of sleep, I wake up, and I can then "drift" still, but I can't sleep at all for the rest of the night. (And I usually can't nap in the day time either.)

And some nights I can't drift at all. I can only fall to sleep normally. I think that was mainly during my most depressed, stressed, or excited nights, where I didn't have good focus I guess...

I'm extremely noise sensitive, but I find that, while wearing my earplugs, sometimes some noises (like my roommate closing the bathroom door) actually cause me to start "drifting".

Breathing can be an issue too. Whenever I consciously breathe (like when taking deep breaths to relax) I feel like I'm not getting enough air, I feel a little suffocated. I always try to let my subconscious take back over breathing as soon as possible. Also, when trying to consciously fall asleep, one of the most disturbing things is... breathing in. :/

Though my daydreams seem more distant than dreams, they can be very immersive, and they can get ahead of my thoughts to the point that I never know what will happen next. They can be almost as frightening as nightmares.

Yay dreams!
written by Logicalerror on Apr 04, 2014 15:41
Once my alarm clock failed to wake me and I heard it for a couple of minutes in my dream, culminating of course with me waking up. That's the closest to a Lucid dream I've experienced.
i haz title: speed-g-dof
written by Speeder on Apr 04, 2014 16:19
I lucid dream quite easily, but it half-bothers me, because when it happens is because something in the waking world is bothering me and making me have a lighter sleep.

Example, today I was lucid dreaming, and then suddenly I had a urge to open my eyes and actually finish waking up, when I did, I noticed it was still middle of the night, and my leg was itching...

So I scratched the itch a bit, and tried to force myself return to lucid dreaming, and then I slept again normally (I actually started another lucid dream, but it quickly faded into a normal dream that I cannot remember anymore).

Other night this happened because it was too cold (I could resume sleeping after fetching a blanket).
i do my own stun-- avatars
written by Albeyamakiir on Apr 05, 2014 13:00
I sometimes become aware that I'm dreaming. Once I even controlled what I did ("To hell with this. I'mma fly away.")

But it's always ended up with me dreaming normally again, so I don't know if I really lucid dreamed. The one time I controlled it, I don't even know how I figured it out, or whether I perhaps just dreamed that I did (woah, how to solve that one?)

I read the wikibooks book about lucid dreaming. In the "Hard" section of "Things to try", it's like "Ask the dream to show you your worst fears/deepest traumas/etc." I am somehow curious...
i haz title: speed-g-dof
written by Speeder on Apr 05, 2014 15:50
Heh... I "cheat" too sometimes in my dreams...

One example was that I was having a nightmare actually, where a guy was trying to kill me for being a hero (I was 12... don't judge )

When I entered in a lucid dream mode, I ended realizing that it was my dream, and so I could do whatever I wanted, so I dreamed that I had a freaking huge and cool sword, and stopped running, and when the guy came to me, I pointed the sword at him, and it turned into a laser bazooka, then I shot him, and woke up a bit confused...

It was not my first time lucid dreaming, but it was early enough to still be a tad weird.

Now when it happens it does not surprise me.

I still never bothered in controlling it or causing it... I prefer currently to focus in other stuff in my life
written by Kristos on Apr 05, 2014 19:11
Speeder, I still dream that people are trying to kill me for being a hero, and I'm 26. Nice dream, btw.

I actually had my second lucid experience last night. I was at the end of a dream, and became conscious as I partly woke up. But instead of continuing to wake up, I followed instruction I read and tried to look for pictures within the emptiness. Soon a whole world started appearing around me, with images flashing and characteristic sounds playing. It was so exciting that I woke up with my heart pounding and heavy breathing. Ha.

What was more interesting was my non-lucid dream in which I was John Watson, and Sherlock Holmes shot me in the leg with a dart gun. Thanks Sherlock!

Albey, I don't really have any goals with lucid dreaming. I'm just trying to train myself to do it because... well, it seems interesting. But if I ever get to an appropriate enough level, I'll have to try asking my dream to show my my worst fears!
i do my own stun-- avatars
written by Albeyamakiir on Apr 07, 2014 00:53
The "worst fears" one does carry a warning. "(be prepared for some bad stuff to surface)" Be careful.
written by Kristos on Apr 07, 2014 14:05
"What?! That is Noctis V's release date?!!!"
written by Mvgulik on May 28, 2014 11:42
Kristos said:
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I've also been trying to write down my dreams every day. ...
Careful
I did that for a short time (at age: ~12..14) ... and ended up remembering (and trying to write down) more and more dreams per night.
(maxed at 7 for me when I stopped. Taking to much time at the end for a school going kid.)

Funny thing is that I still can recall (to some degree) some of those dreams I wrote down then.

One odd dream case (later in life) was one that turned my personal clock a day in advanced.
(Huh. Its Thursday and not Friday o.O ... Why I'm I thinking its Friday ... )

On the Lucid dreaming part, I kinda suck.
lost, not forgotten
written by Alex on Dec 22, 2015 18:50
I can do lucid dreaming if I really want to, averagely once every 3 days. I also have mostly full control on the dream, as soon as I realize it's a dream. I can change nights to days, scramble cities, fly, go to space to see dawn beyond the Earth's horizon, things like that.

Well, I think this "training" mostly comes from practicing lucid dreaming when I was around 16 years of age. Back in those days I was acutely depressed and having frequent nightmares, from which stemmed an interest in lucid dreaming in an attempt to keep the scary dreams under control. I made a contraption, at that time, using my old Amiga 500 and a joystick cable. Connected the fire button (which was detectable via AmOS Basic) to an elastic ribbon where two electrical contacts were simulating the "fire" action every time they touched. Placing the ribbon around my chest, I could determine my breathing rate while sleeping. The Amiga was programmed to emit a series of beeps when it detected a sudden, sustained increase in the rate, generally meaning I had entered REM sleep. In the dream, I was hearing those sounds and realizing I was in a dream.

p.s. I think it could be re-done today in a more confortable way with a Lilypad Arduino and a flex sensor. Maybe I'll try, but I don't really need such a device anymore, although it could sure improve chances to be lucid dreaming every night. Not sure it'd be a good idea, though: you end up remembering things you made in dreams as if they happened for real, confusing the audience in front of you and getting into embarrassing situations.
written by Kristos on Jan 04, 2016 00:27
It is still very rare for me to have a lucid dream. I still write down my dreams, usually 1 to 4 a day.

Your method sounds very good. I once entered into lucid dreaming because I could still hear the music I had left playing.

I already remember things from my dreams as if they happened for real. Even sometimes extreme things like gaining a super power or getting married to some stranger or accidentally killing a person.

In last night's dreams:
- I solved a puzzle involving four locks on an old clock that periodically swallowed people into a portal. A previous attempt only solved the first lock, revealing that each lock likely corresponded to an element. The main difficulty was figuring out what the four "elements" were since they were not any of the traditional "four elements".
- I studied a strange iPad port of a 2D Sonic the Hedgehog game.
- An arrow fell out of the sky and sunk into my head, only the back three inches jutting out. It felt strange and I casually pondered whether or not I would die from it.
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