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written by Yourself on Oct 05, 2014 23:39
Source code contains a comment that directly says that it counts since 1984-1-1, that was likely the oldest date Alex could have set on his BIOS, while epoc count was most likely based on the estimated age of homo sapiens sapiens.

have a ruined day.
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written by Cryoburner on Oct 06, 2014 02:35
Or maybe, whoever made Alex's BIOS based that date on the start of the last Felysian Epoch...

Of course, it seems reasonable that he would pick a date that could be tested on his system by setting his PC clock to that date.

As for the estimated age of modern humans, I'm not so sure that's necessarily what he was going for. And according to that study, they didn't perform those date estimates until a few years after Noctis was released, although vague estimates had been made previously. It could just as easily be that Alex arbitrarily liked the epoch being around 6000 though, and added a handful of epochs to make it look a little less contrived. : P In any case, I don't believe we even know what the epoch counts up from, and considering their current several thousand year life spans, it seems reasonable that it was from some point in their civilized history, rather than how long their species has been around.
written by Bronstorm on Nov 21, 2014 02:24
Was i hacked?
written by Bronstorm on Nov 21, 2014 02:25
oh nvrm, lol this guy's name is yourself lol
written by Bronstorm on Nov 21, 2014 02:29
Sorry replying so late, i haven't been on for a long time! vacation made me forget about the game, so forth making me abandon it on my desktop. Anyways, if it is the seconds away from 6011, how do i know about the seconds spread due to the colons.

Thanks!
-Bronstorm
written by Bronstorm on Aug 17, 2015 21:10
Hello! Bronstorm here, i'm just wondering, i got a new computer and i can't run noctis anymore. Anyone have a download link to a noctis for 64 bit windows? Thanks!

-Bronstorm
written by Polynomial on Aug 19, 2015 06:26
I joined just to mention this, but I get Noctis to run on newer PCs by running virtual PCs with XP or earlier. Windows 7 has one built in with Windows XP already installed, which works wonders for unsupported games. It's not a sophisticated work around, but it worked with my Windows 8.1 PC as well (which I think everyone knows is a miracle of miracles. Getting anything older than two years to work on that OS is a chore).
going nowhere fast...
written by Skinnymon on Aug 19, 2015 17:27
Sounds interesting...

requires: Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7 Enterprise.

(which may/may not be the built in versions)

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Of course, the Win7 lapcrap I can use has Windows 7 Home Premium...

BZZZZZZ!!!! EPIC FAIL!!!!</asterisk>

sigh! just have to hope my $5.00 (yard sale) Dell tower running WinXP lasts a while longer...
going nowhere fast...
written by Skinnymon on Aug 19, 2015 17:32
Sounds interesting...

requires: Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7 Enterprise.

(which may/may not be the built in versions)

<Asterisk>
Of course, the Win7 lapcrap I can use has Windows 7 Home Premium...

BZZZZZZ!!!! EPIC FAIL!!!!</asterisk>

sigh! just have to hope my $5.00 (yard sale) Dell tower running WinXP SP3 lasts a while longer...

written by Polynomial on Aug 20, 2015 01:16
All it'd take to run it without the Win7 Ultimate edition would to get the Windows Virtual PC app (free from Microsoft) and a valid copy of XP to install. I got it to run on Vista x64 and 8.1 in this fashion, as a friend had an extra copy of XP laying around and mailed it to me.

You might also get away with dual-booting a different OS with newer computers, but the last one I tried that with was a crappy compact PC that fought me every inch of the way.
written by Cryoburner on Aug 20, 2015 18:59
Polynomial said:
All it'd take to run it without the Win7 Ultimate edition would to get the Windows Virtual PC app (free from Microsoft) and a valid copy of XP to install.
The computer's processor also needs to have hardware virtualization support, which many do, but not all are guaranteed to have.

And of course, Microsoft didn't make Virtual PC available for Windows 8 and above, instead requiring you to upgrade to Pro to run Hyper-V virtual machines. But don't worry, they let you upgrade your copy of Windows 8 to Windows 8 Pro for a mere $100. >_>
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written by Skinnymon on Aug 21, 2015 18:19
Polynomial said:
and a valid copy of XP to install
Which begs the question: if one has access to a valid copy of Win XP, would it not be simpler to get another [used/cheap] computer and install Win XP on it?

just thought I'd ask...

standing on my title
written by Gligar on Aug 21, 2015 18:43
Skinnymon said:
Which begs the question: if one has access to a valid copy of Win XP, would it not be simpler to get another [used/cheap] computer and install Win XP on it?
And another plug socket (or two), and another keyboard, and another monitor, and another mouse...

Oooooor... you could get something like VMWare or Virtualbox
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written by Skinnymon on Aug 22, 2015 02:00
Gligar said:
And another plug socket (or two), and another keyboard, and another monitor, and another mouse...
You mean those things are addons????
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On the other hand...if I may mention it here, without attracting the Felisian Inquisition... I have done some experimental trials using DOSBox SVN-Daum (Jan. 25, 2015 update) with Vanilla Noctis and after a bit of fiddling with the settings [not knowing what I'm doing, of course] I have managed to delete a considerable amount of the "slow and jerky" motion inside the drifter and have a good space travel mode. Planetary landing seems to take a loooong time though.

Just mentioning it for reference.

lost, not forgotten
written by Alex on Sep 09, 2015 07:50
Yourself said:
Source code contains a comment that directly says that it counts since 1984-1-1, that was likely the oldest date Alex could have set on his BIOS,
Umm... improbable, more likely, I remembered 1984 as a nice year for some childhood reasons, and picked it as a sort-of favorite year to get the 6011 Epoc to start from.

Yourself said:
while epoc count was most likely based on the estimated age of homo sapiens sapiens.
Believe me when I say I sincerely don't remember where 6011 came from. I think there might have been some sort of reasoning behind the choice, and I was in fact wondering it tonight. But if there was a reason, I don't remember it anymore.
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