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written by Speeder on Aug 28, 2018 13:55
Greetings everyone

I am nowhere good GM as Xenomorph, whoops, Gligar...

Neither as funny...

But I wanna run a game of FATE.

To keep it simple... FATE rules are simple:

First, FATE is intended as game engine, it is not a game itself, I read "FATE Core" rules but dunno if we will use them as is.

Two, FATE is based on FUDGE, and the part where they are identical is kinda dumb easy to understand:


All rolls are with four six sided dice, modified, two faces show a plus, two faces show a minus, two faces are blank.

https://jerimumgeek.oportaln10.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/fudge-dice.png

The idea is the dice define how good you went, beyond (or worse) than the skill you used.

The default is that all characters have mediocre/average/etc... rating in most skills, so if you don't know the skill rating of someone (example: need to come up with some generic NPC) you can just assume is average (unless is obvious it isn't, for example most people are NOT average in "Medicine", they just suck)

So for most rolls result is simple, roll dices. Bunch of +, success, bunch of -, fail, tie, is well, a tie. (call it... minor success)

Due to bell curve, most die rolls will tend toward a tie, the rarest rolls are four minuses, or four pluses, with 1.23% chance of rolling each.


In roll vs roll contests, highest roll + skill win.

In roll vs non-roll contest, then your roll+skill must surpass the "skill" of the resistance.

Again, most things are considered "average" so you don't even factor skills, for example you want to lockpick an normal average door and you don't even have lockpick skill in your sheet? We just roll the dice, assume your skill is 0, door is 0, so if you have a bunch of + you succeed, bunch of - you fail.


Now, unique to "FATE", or... sorta unique (it is kinda a rules modification of FUDGE), is the idea of "aspects", an "aspect" is some phrase that has both a positive and negative meaning, and can be used to modify rolls. Locations, people, etc... all have aspects. In fact theoretically, most things in FATE can have a character sheet identical to players, even the world itself.


The game doesn't have HP in the traditional sense, or mana, or etc... it has, for damage tracking, slots on your character that fit aspects related to the damage.

Example: suppose in a fight the enemy will do 4 damage to you, you can choose to just take it (and enemy then decide what happens to you, literally, so... do not do that), or if you have a free "4 damage slot", you add some new aspect to it (filling that slot), for example suppose enemy in question hit you with a huge club, you can then write: "broken leg"

Meaning to heal that slot and use it again in the future... you will have to RP healing a broken leg.

The damage can be many things, the default is physical and mental, but the game rules for example cite the idea of using wealth damage, and so on, whatever you think fits the need of the campaign.


The major resource the game has, is "Fate", it works kinda like Paranoia perversity points, players lose or earn a bunch of it because of their RP (mostly: following your aspects, specially if they cause negative results, earn you Fate points), and the main use of "Fate" is invoke aspects to improve rolls.

When you invoke a relevant aspect (suppose you are rolling for "deceive" skill, and you have an aspect named "lies a lot"), you can choose (even after the intial roll!) if you want a +2 bonus, or just reroll.

Mind you, you can invoke aspects of other sheets, not just yours, for example that "broken leg" you got, another player then might decide to attack you, and after he didn't liked his roll, he says your defense was shitty because of the broken leg, and calls for a reroll. In that situation the invoking player gives a fate point to the invoked one.


FATE game rules in a sense are polar opposite of Paranoia, they were intentionally designed for people not having secrets, it is intended all aspects and skills to be in the open for everyone for most part, the author of the game even said he believes 99% of the rolls the GM never need to make secret, and should explain precisely the difficulty, penalties, bonuses, and so on. The reason for this is the game is mostly based around using the "aspects", creating new ones, modifying them, invoking them, etc... in a kinda collaborative manner, the GM is more a judge than a true GM, players are free to propose stuff and so on.

One exception: if you want to point out some aspect of another player should have a negative consequence, you need to pay 1 Fate point, even if GM says no. This is to prevent people from spamming this to inflate someone else fate points or cause too much trouble.

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So, before we play instead of defining our characters, we actually need to define our world... So please in your replies, post questions about the rules, and post ideas... We do sci-fi? medieval? WW2? superheroes? the game rules support almost anything, except things that rely on mystery... (so no survival horror, agatha crhistie style stories, etc...)
r'lyeh sweet r'lyeh
written by Neuzd on Aug 28, 2018 14:52
Despite my constant and everlasting interest in RPGs, I came to realise I lose interest once we're in the middle of action, so I don't know if I'll be of the game, I will read with more attention your post tonight.

I learned about FATE through Diaspora, a hard sci-fi game based on previous iterations of the FATE engine, and it does seem really nice.

Anyway, for everyone esle interested it'd be nice to point out that both FATE Core and FAE (the slimmed down version) are "pay what you like", so basically FREE.
https://www.evilhat.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=79&products_id=224&zenid=la4fqt8ia8gf3ua279vespoa10
https://www.evilhat.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=79&products_id=223&zenid=la4fqt8ia8gf3ua279vespoa10

[EDIT]
My FATE dice (4 sets) are among my favorite dice I own, absolutely perfect weight.
(and they're really FUDGE dice, as they are by Grey Ghost)
i haz title: speed-g-dof
written by Speeder on Aug 28, 2018 17:51
I read the rules of FATE, legally, from this link:

https://fate-srd.com/

Also, technically it is open source... so anyone wanting to write their own books and publish can do that too.
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written by Gligar on Aug 28, 2018 20:11
This does seem interesting. Though I don't have much to add at this stage, consider this a vote of support.

One thing, though: how will we be handling dice rolls? Will we be using some sort of online roller, or will it be up to the GM to handle it, as in my game?
i haz title: speed-g-dof
written by Speeder on Aug 29, 2018 22:42
No idea yet O.O

If anyone has any better ideas...

I do not own physical FATE dices right now so... whatever solution will be technological.
standing on my title
written by Gligar on Aug 30, 2018 01:48
Speeder said:
I do not own physical FATE dices right now so...
That's okay, I don't have FATE dice either If it comes to it, we could just use regular d6s.

Though of course, that comes with the issue of "how do you know what the players rolled?"...
written by Cryoburner on Sep 01, 2018 17:26
I found some online dice rollers that provide logging that might work. This one, for example, allows you to enter a pass code to access a shared log for rolls, which stores the last 100 results...

http://www.metstuebchen.de/cgi-bin/DIESERVER/roll.pl

You can also include a name and comment with each roll, for example...

http://www.metstuebchen.de/cgi-bin/DIESERVER/roll.pl?diestring=&comment=&code=test0&showroll=show

Here's another, though with this one you need to register an email address to access a private log...

https://dicelog.com/dice
i haz title: speed-g-dof
written by Speeder on Sep 03, 2018 13:55
You people are good at being useful O.O
r'lyeh sweet r'lyeh
written by Neuzd on Sep 13, 2018 15:41
So, I'm still waiting to see how this develops before deciding if I want to participate.
But I recently started a solo game of Ironsworn and maybe I will be able to overcome the block of palying RPGs and be with you.

Anyway, since Speeder asked for a preference of setting and/or ideas and no one still said anything, I pitch this:
The search for the Felisians.
standing on my title
written by Gligar on Sep 13, 2018 21:55
I think everyone's fallen into the trap of waiting for everyone else to respond... either that or we've all come down with a case of workitis.

*pokes Speeder*

But on the subject of topic, I'd like to suggest a sci-fi setting... not incompatible with neuzd's suggestion. But let's let's keep it fairly 'hard' sci-fi... there might be FTL and requisite technologies, but that's about it. Aliens if Speeder deems them necessary.

Derivative, but who cares?
written by Cryoburner on Sep 17, 2018 00:34
Does hard sci-fi allow for riding space dragons?

I mean, based on current human scientific knowledge of creatures from other worlds, there's just as much of a possibility that they could take the form of space dragons as anything. And if they were space dragons, there's at least a 97.4% chance that they would be ridable.
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