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written by Megagun on Jun 20, 2004 11:10
Ah, i see! It's the other way around!
N5corp is LKraider!
written by Lkraider on Jun 23, 2004 03:14
http://www.sito.org
Art-related. Mostly about colaborative art on the web, in wich you can participate in the creating of multi-dimensional colaborative pieces.

I just bumped into it again after recently scouting old places I used to go. Really interesting "synergy" projects there -check out Gridcosm-. (but lacking from new project ideas, it seems)
written by Chad on Jun 26, 2004 06:47
RPG Maker XP

Not currently out yet but it looks nice.

English Translation Site -
http://www.phylomortis.com/html/rmxp1.html
Official Site -
http://www.enterbrain.co.jp/digifami/products/rpgxp/index.html
mukyu
written by Explorer on Jun 26, 2004 09:40
I nearly had a heart attack when I checked out the RPG Maker XP site! WOO! I want it...
written by Senor ding dong on Jul 31, 2004 00:18
(GAHHHHHAAGGAgaa), is in my opinion the 2nd best next to HOTU, not as many games, but i have yet to see a pop up, down time, or any real visual ad, and you can download more that one thing at a time. There pretty new, but they seem to ad somthing daily.

EDIT: get this stupid crap sorted out.
└> last changed by Senor ding dong on August 03, 2004 at 05:55
absent more than alex
written by Shadowlord on Jul 31, 2004 19:06
I just stumbled upon http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Abandonware/File_Downloads/ - nice. HOTU is at the top. Abandonia is also on that list.
omg! toadstoolz!
written by Dumbum on Aug 02, 2004 21:32
Senor ding dong said:
Abandonia.com, In my opinion the 2nd best next to HOTU, not as many games, but i have yet to see a pop up, down time, or any real visual ad, and you can download more that one thing at a time. There pretty new, but they seem to ad somthing daily.

http://www.abandonia.com
When I posted about that site here on anywherebb, (x) complained about it containing warez and told me to remove the link as soon as possible........
there's science to be done!
written by Yash on Aug 02, 2004 21:37
There is. In the form of Simcity 2000 and at the time you posted it- x-com, but I'm not a mod, you'll have to take it up with one of them.
mukyu
written by Explorer on Aug 02, 2004 21:44
Well I don't see why this should be removed if HOTU isn't removed... There are some games on HOTU you can still buy, but also can still DL there. There's no harm done in leaving it up, really.
written by Senor ding dong on Aug 03, 2004 06:03
Well technically X-COM is warez too, and HOTU hosts that, along with other games that could be viewed as warez, but both games fit HOTUs definition of abandonware
absent more than alex
written by Shadowlord on Aug 03, 2004 18:20
I'd note that HOTU removes things if the copyright owner requests it. Warez sites sure as hell don't. And HOTU has a lot of games listed which don't have download links, but instead have links to places you can buy them, or to the site where they're hosted, for most free games.

Unlike (apparently) most sites, which put things up for download and then never update them (i.e. that site with Noctis III, the one with the really old version of NIV, etc).
written by Spacey on Aug 03, 2004 19:11
I've personally never really liked HOTU. I do visit it sometimes, but usually that horribly slow server scares me off.
five tons of flax!
written by Perryrhodan on Aug 04, 2004 23:02
Ron Gilbert has a blog... He says he works together with Tim Schafer again
www.grumpygamer.com
written by Cryoburner on Aug 05, 2004 11:33
I really don't think Abandononia could be considered any more of a warez site than HOTU. SimCity2000 is 10 years old, and I can't see any reason why someone would actually purchase it now, as both SC3000 and SC4 were designed as replacements. You can buy a new copy of the second "Unlimited" release of SC3000 for $10 or less at Amazon, so few would bother with its prequel. Another way to look at it, is that it will certainly attract new players to series, who will find it enjoyable and likely buy newer versions in the future.

The site also seems to remove things if requested. I even see a 'purchase' link for good old Wacky Wheels. : P Anyway, I still find HOTU to be a good amount better, as they have by far the largest open collection of abandonware and freeware. The entire concept of abandonware is in a grey area between freeware and warez, so unless you start seeing games like UT2004 and Doom3 (or even Half Life and the first UT) on a site, it's likely treading safe enough ground.
sumting need doing?
written by Lightning4 on Aug 05, 2004 11:36
Well technically no matter what, according to copyright laws, even HOTU is illegal, and wont become legal until the people who made the game in question have died and some large amount of time, like 40-70 years, have passed.

But no one cares anyway, and it might be different for software.
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